A rally worth going to DC to attend.

The title was taken from a friend's entry in Facebook.  The resulting space got crowded with entries and my friend asked us to "Give it up" and with due respect to our friend, after all, it is his "wall" we have offered to continue the discussion here.

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Are we civil?

To the point that we were asked to "give it up" I believe we were pretty much in the bounds of civility.  In another post, Maynard mentioned his sermon on civility and added  the scripture "If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." -- Romans 12:18-19. In a response I mentioned the scripture "Again, when a righteous man turns from his righteousness and does evil, and I put a stumbling block before him, he will die. Since you did not warn him, he will die for his sin. The righteous things he did will not be remembered, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. 2 But if you do warn the righteous man not to sin and he does not sin, he will surely live because he took warning, and you will have saved yourself." -- Ezekiel 3:20-21.

It appears that the first phrase of Romans 12:18-19 is there to allow Ezekiel 3:20-21 to be operable.  It may be that we have heard and applied  Jesus sermon from the mountain quotation "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."  -- Matthew 7:1-2. to an extent that the Ezekiel passage has been ignored.  And then there is a significant difference between "judging" and "warning".

We must, then, try to characterize our critique as our opinions and "warnings" rather than judging.

Firstly, I think Maynard's posting of the announcement was in humour rather than a serious comment that Jon Stewart is outstanding  as a leader.  The announcement both as a web site and the video is obviously a take-off of the recent Glenn Beck rally at the Lincoln Memorial.  If Stewart is serious, his statements are not offensive, in fact laudable, but not very funny.  If Stewart was doing a take-off, and being a comedian, I would expect it to be a take-off I find it very funny.

A number of the comments in the chain are from folks that "do not watch", "will not watch" and the like.  The message I seem to be getting is that Glenn Beck is some-how anti-Christian and opposed to Christian principles and objectives.  My question to them is how do you know?  Surely you don't accept, with out question, sound-bites broadcast by those who oppose Glenn Beck because he does not accept without question reporting from the so-called main-stream media.  Could it be that Glenn is delivering "warnings"?

One participant even believes that "The time for civility is over."  Even though I do not agree, his opinion counts.  After all, the founding of this country happened only after the time for civility was over.  One of our founders, Thomas Jefferson, suggested that revolution in a country was necessary for the citizens to maintain control of their government.  In my opinion, a revolution can occur as the result of the vote, and the result is not necessarily good.

Charity is not an attribute that is owned by the "Left" or "Socialists".  It may be instructional to examine the actual charitable gifts of the admitted capitalists compared with members of the left.  Is investing in a project that creates jobs and creates wealth not a form of charity?